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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:08 pm    Post subject: Chinese garden at Berlin-Marzahn Reply with quote

Dear Alfred and friends,

I just became aware of the "Garden of the Reclaimed Moon" in
Berlin.

http://www.chinapage.com/general/garden.html

It looks very beautiful. Have you seen it? Do you know the
Chinese names of the garden and various parts in it?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are many links.which one do u mean?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Berlin, Germany

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It looks very beautiful. Have you seen it? Do you know the
Chinese names of the garden and various parts in it?


It looks very beautiful! But I never saw it before. A couple of years ago, I once was out to Berlin-Marzahn, a working class district on the fringe of Berlin with pretty ugly-looking multi-story buildings ("Plattenbauten") etc.. I appreciate that now in this of all areas this wonderful Chinese Garden had been built.
I don't know how the different parts are named. BTW, what's the garden's name (... Reclaimed Moon) in Chinese? Something like ¶}/¦^¦¬/¦¬Âk¤ë?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess is:
Garden of Reclaimed Moon 拾月園


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here, I found some more info on the garden:

The "Garden of the Reclaimed Moon" opened in Berlin's Marzahn Park on the 15th October 2000. It is the largest Chinese garden in Europe, measuring 2.7 hectares, and was based on drafts from the Peking Institute for Classic Garden Architecture. Eisenacher Str. 99, 12685 Berlin-Marzahn, S-Bahn (Tube) S 7, Bus 195, Hours of opening: Tue and Fri: 11.00-18.00, Wed and Thur 10.30-18.00, Sat and Sun 10.30-19.00, Tel. +49 0179 394 55 64, Guided tours possible, Tickets 3 Euro (reduced 1.50).

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Alfred,

Is there any way to find out the actual Chinese name of the garden, since you are the closest to it, geographically and linguistically? It is interesting. Ming has a good version, but there could be more possibilities.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Siu-Leung, i wrote an email to them, and now am looking forward to get any notice. Here's another site to learn more about the garden:

http://berlin1.btm.de/infopool/jsp/e_sw_erholungspark-marzahn.jsp
http://www.spanische-inquisition.de/foto/china_garten/index_e.html
http://www.berlin.de/rbmskzl/staedtepartnerschaften/beijing_e.html
http://www.berlin-hidden-places.de/yuba_web3/sachindex_en/gaerten_parks/marz_teehaus_en.htm
http://www.jackiechanfans.com/Latest3aberlgarden1.htm
http://www.seechina.com.cn/English/hot_track/content.php3?fdHotId=27&fdNewsId=138
http://www.china.org.cn/english/2001/Sep/19206.htm
http://www.btm.de/english/berlin-infos/e_bi_bezirk-marzahn.html


I found two more names for the garden: "Garten des wiedergewonnenen Mondes", "Garden of the Recovered Moon"and Garden of the Regained Moon".

The Chinese characters mentioned by Ming (see below) are the teahouse's decoration. They can be seen on two of the photographs (see links above).

Alfred


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guesses for other names in Berlin-Marzhan are:

Garden of Reclaimed Moon 拾月 園

Pavilion Inviting the Moon 迎月亭

Contemplation in Peace 靜思

Contemplation in motion 動思

Mirror of the Heaven 鏡天

I have seen a blurred photo of the garden showing Chinese names
on the structures. Perhaps someone can visit the garden and
take a few photos?

Ming


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinese architecture and landscape emphasizes on tranquillity, merging with nature, and self reflection. I was once so annoyed by the new riches full blasting hard rock noise with their boomboxes in a park that I almost wanted smash their nuisance.

The race boats, snow mobiles, all terrain vehicles, motocycles have ruined so many national parks in US. It is truly gratifying to see the appreciation of Chinese culture by Europeans. Recently, the French hosted a Chinese festival in Paris with glamorous success. I hope to see more of Chinese culture shared by other countries. After all a lot of Chinese culture came from other nations.

I love to see more pictures of the Berlin garden and the Chinese names of the pavillions.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Searching by the garden's name in German, I found a pretty good comment and a visit's report here:

http://www.dooyoo.de/deutschland_guide/sehenswuerdigkeiten_national/chinesischer_erholungspark_marzahn_berlin/758412/



Quote:

[...]
Der Initiator dieses Projekts ist der Gutmensch Manfred Durniok, seines Zeichens Filmproduzent und ein großer Freund Chinas und der Chinesen, Ehrenbürger der Stadt Peking, eine der Partnerstädte Berlins.

... das steinerne Schiff mit dem Namen ‘Blick auf den Mond’ anguckt, in den ‘Pavillon des ruhigen Mondscheins’ und die ‘Stube des heiteren Wetters’ hineingeht, die Einrichtungsgegenstände betrachtet und den Ausführungen lauscht.


("Gaze on the Moon" - stone bark -, "Pavilion of Tranquil Moonlight", "Parlor of Serene Weather")

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Der Garten wurde geplant vom Pekinger Institut für Klassische Landschaftsgärtnerei im Stile eines nordchinesischen Gelehrtengartens, 20 chinesische Landschaftsgärtner wurden für sechs Jahre nach Berlin entsandt, um das Projekt zu realisieren, die offizielle Eröffnung fand am 15. Oktober 2000 statt. Das für den Garten benötigte Material, Marmor, Kalkstein und besonders bizarr geformte Felsenstücke sowie verschiedene Holzarten, wurden in 20 Container verpackt und nach Berlin verschifft. Die Bäume und Pflanzen kommen aus Deutschland, aber es sind nur solche, die auch in der chinesischen Flora vorkommen.

Als der Garten geplant wurde, vergaßen die Verantwortlichen nicht die Angewohnheiten der Guten und der Bösen Geister, alle Türen können nur über ein paar Stufen erreicht werden , und alle Durchgänge sind leicht erhöht, Böse Geister können so nicht eintreten (falls Sie das noch nicht wussten). Das Teehaus mit dem Namen ‘Berghaus zum Osmanthussaft’ (in China gebaut, auseinandergenommen, in Container verpackt, nach Berlin gebracht und wieder aufgebaut) liegt am Fuß des Hügels, was gut ist, denn Drachen und Gute Geister leben auf Hügeln und Bergspitzen.
[...]
Der Name ‘Garten des wiedergewonnenen Mondes’ wurde von den Chinesen ausgewählt. Der Mond ist ein Symbol für Liebe, Harmonie, Freundschaft und Glück, ‘wiedergewonnen’ als Anspielung auf die Vereinigung Deutschlands.


The name chosen for us by the Chinese is to symbolize "love, harmony, friendship and good fortune" - i.e. the moon - *regained*: an allusion to the reunification of our country.

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Ungefähr 10 000 Menschen chinesischer Herkunft leben in Berlin, aber es gibt hier keine ‘Chinatown’. Nicht nur sie freuen sich über den Garten, bis jetzt sind über 200 000 Besucher da gewesen, viele davon natürlich aus der unmittelbaren Umgebung, die viele Male schon zurückgekommen sind, der Garten ist ‘angenommen’.




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Ming and all:

as I told you, I wrote an email to Gruen Berlin Park und Garten GmbH (info@gruen-berlin.de) meanwhile getting their answer:

"[...] der deutsche Name des Chinesichen Gartens lautet "Garten des wiedergewonnnenen Mondes". Den Original-Schriftzug mit den chinesischen Schriftzeichen haben wir an diese E-Mail angeh?ngt.

Viele Gr??e an Ihre chinesischen Freunde.

Mit freundlichen Gr??en"

[...]"

The "Garten des wiedergewonnenen Monds" name in Chinese is

±o¤ë¶é

You can see that Ming has come pretty close to it Very Happy

As you might read from the German email, they're extending "many greetings to my Chinese friends".

Best regards

Alfred

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Alfred,

That is what I thought, but I did not write it down. I think it got the name from the pvillion in Shanghai Yu Yuan (Old Shanghai City). It is called De Yue Lou. I think the architects may got hte idea from there.

It is great to see Chinese architecture apreciated in Europe. On the other hand, I am alarmed to see some totally out-of-place modern architecture in historical places in China. It destroys one's inspiration in composing poems.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Alfred,

I just wonder whether the name should be 得 月 园 and not 得 月 圆.


Siu Leung,

You may recall there is a very famous restaurant in Hong Kong called 得 月 酒 楼 .


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julian said

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I just wonder whether the name should be 得 月 园 and not 得 月 圆.


Yes. Thanks for pointing out the typo.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Julian,

I think you're right and it seems to be a typo - maybe triggered by the 'picture' of a full moon Wink Sorry, i no longer have the email from Berlin with the graphic attached. I'll change it above. Thanks.

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