China the Beautiful

chinapage · Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:08 pm Post subject: Chinese garden at Berlin-Marzahn

Dear Alfred and friends,

I just became aware of the "Garden of the Reclaimed Moon" in
Berlin.

http://www.chinapage.com/general/garden.html

It looks very beautiful. Have you seen it? Do you know the
Chinese names of the garden and various parts in it?

Ming

smile · Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 6

there are many links.which one do u mean?

chinapage · Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:23 pm Post subject:

In Berlin, Germany

Last in the list.

Aolung · Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 1037

chinapage · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:05 pm Post subject:

My guess is:
Garden of Reclaimed Moon 拾月園

Aolung · Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 1037

Here, I found some more info on the garden:

The "Garden of the Reclaimed Moon" opened in Berlin's Marzahn Park on the 15th October 2000. It is the largest Chinese garden in Europe, measuring 2.7 hectares, and was based on drafts from the Peking Institute for Classic Garden Architecture. Eisenacher Str. 99, 12685 Berlin-Marzahn, S-Bahn (Tube) S 7, Bus 195, Hours of opening: Tue and Fri: 11.00-18.00, Wed and Thur 10.30-18.00, Sat and Sun 10.30-19.00, Tel. +49 0179 394 55 64, Guided tours possible, Tickets 3 Euro (reduced 1.50).

Alfred

sllee · Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 731 Location: USA

Dear Alfred,

Is there any way to find out the actual Chinese name of the garden, since you are the closest to it, geographically and linguistically? It is interesting. Ming has a good version, but there could be more possibilities.
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Aolung · Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 1037

Dear Siu-Leung, i wrote an email to them, and now am looking forward to get any notice. Here's another site to learn more about the garden:

http://berlin1.btm.de/infopool/jsp/e_sw_erholungspark-marzahn.jsp
http://www.spanische-inquisition.de/foto/china_garten/index_e.html
http://www.berlin.de/rbmskzl/staedtepartnerschaften/beijing_e.html
http://www.berlin-hidden-places.de/yuba_web3/sachindex_en/gaerten_parks/marz_teehaus_en.htm
http://www.jackiechanfans.com/Latest3aberlgarden1.htm
http://www.seechina.com.cn/English/hot_track/content.php3?fdHotId=27&fdNewsId=138
http://www.china.org.cn/english/2001/Sep/19206.htm
http://www.btm.de/english/berlin-infos/e_bi_bezirk-marzahn.html

I found two more names for the garden: "Garten des wiedergewonnenen Mondes", "Garden of the Recovered Moon"and Garden of the Regained Moon".

The Chinese characters mentioned by Ming (see below) are the teahouse's decoration. They can be seen on two of the photographs (see links above).

Alfred

chinapage · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 12:22 pm Post subject:

My guesses for other names in Berlin-Marzhan are:

Garden of Reclaimed Moon 拾月園

Pavilion Inviting the Moon 迎月亭

Contemplation in Peace 靜思

Contemplation in motion 動思

Mirror of the Heaven 鏡天

I have seen a blurred photo of the garden showing Chinese names
on the structures. Perhaps someone can visit the garden and
take a few photos?

Ming

sllee · Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 731 Location: USA

Chinese architecture and landscape emphasizes on tranquillity, merging with nature, and self reflection. I was once so annoyed by the new riches full blasting hard rock noise with their boomboxes in a park that I almost wanted smash their nuisance.

The race boats, snow mobiles, all terrain vehicles, motocycles have ruined so many national parks in US. It is truly gratifying to see the appreciation of Chinese culture by Europeans. Recently, the French hosted a Chinese festival in Paris with glamorous success. I hope to see more of Chinese culture shared by other countries. After all a lot of Chinese culture came from other nations.

I love to see more pictures of the Berlin garden and the Chinese names of the pavillions.
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Aolung · Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 1037

Searching by the garden's name in German, I found a pretty good comment and a visit's report here:

http://www.dooyoo.de/deutschland_guide/sehenswuerdigkeiten_national/chinesischer_erholungspark_marzahn_berlin/758412/

Aolung · Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 1037

Dear Ming and all:

as I told you, I wrote an email to Gruen Berlin Park und Garten GmbH (info@gruen-berlin.de) meanwhile getting their answer:

"[...] der deutsche Name des Chinesichen Gartens lautet "Garten des wiedergewonnnenen Mondes". Den Original-Schriftzug mit den chinesischen Schriftzeichen haben wir an diese E-Mail angeh?ngt.

Viele Gr??e an Ihre chinesischen Freunde.

Mit freundlichen Gr??en"

[...]"

The "Garten des wiedergewonnenen Monds" name in Chinese is

±o¤ë¶é

You can see that Ming has come pretty close to it Very Happy

As you might read from the German email, they're extending "many greetings to my Chinese friends".

Best regards

Alfred

http://www.fa-kuan.muc.de

sllee · Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 731 Location: USA

Dear Alfred,

That is what I thought, but I did not write it down. I think it got the name from the pvillion in Shanghai Yu Yuan (Old Shanghai City). It is called De Yue Lou. I think the architects may got hte idea from there.

It is great to see Chinese architecture apreciated in Europe. On the other hand, I am alarmed to see some totally out-of-place modern architecture in historical places in China. It destroys one's inspiration in composing poems.
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yiukwokwai · Joined: 06 Aug 2002 Posts: 206

Dear Alfred,

I just wonder whether the name should be 得月园 and not 得月圆.

Siu Leung,

You may recall there is a very famous restaurant in Hong Kong called 得月酒楼 .

Julian

chinapage · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject:

Julian said

Aolung · Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 1037

Dear Julian,

I think you're right and it seems to be a typo - maybe triggered by the 'picture' of a full moon Wink

Sorry, i no longer have the email from Berlin with the graphic attached. I'll change it above. Thanks.

Alfred